Topic: Dashhawk or other gauges

[Kelu]

I was thinking to buy Dashhawk because is good to know what happens in engine and maybe prevent bad things to happen.
My aim is to check boost, oil temp and pressures, water temp and some others values which might be good for a medium tuned engine.

Dashhawk looks good because is only one connection to OBDII, allows many info in one device including reading engine codes and resetting them and is medium priced.

My questions are:
1) the limitations of our sensors/OBDII will be reflected in dashhawk read also, ie. maximum boost will not display above 25psi?
2) Is better to use other gauges within their own sensors ie. for oil and have a parallel system to avoid OBDII? In this case I presume will be a hassle to run the lines from engine to interior of the car and the prices will be higher
3) What are other (I don't care about 0-60 times, 1/4 times, rpm or speed) good parameters to be watched and how are accomplished on both solutions.

[U4EA]

I, like you, are considering gauges. Check out DDM WORKS and the Aeroforce gauges and DDM A pillar Gauge pod. I believe these are OBDII and have many of the same functions of the dashawk and a neat installation.

[shabby]

1. you will only be able to read upto 22.5psi of boost. the dic might show more but the obd2 port will only show 22.5
2. yes, especially for boost and oil pressure(dashhdawk cant read that)
3. you should watch knock retard and air fuel ratio, both easily readable on the dashhawk

Btw software support for the dashhawk is basically dead, so if something doesn't work on the dashhawk don't expect it to be fixed. Once this happened i decided to move on to the dashdaq, its more expensive but more feature rich/expendable and comes with a big screen. You can also add external sensors into it, such as a 5v boost pressire/oil temp sensor or even a gps module, you can even make your own gauges/themes. I posted a video of it on youtube, its pretty cool.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyHS4s1MZxs[/youtube]

[Gentleman Jack]

Shabby,

Great info.  Never heard of Dashdaq before I saw this.  Very interested in GPS portion. could eliminate one unit if this did both.  Ever tried the GPS / Maps?  Are they any good?  When will soneone build this in to the head unit so we can have everything in one....and then sell it so we can all afford it!
Nice work mounting the camera btw.

[shabby]

Yes i have the gps module, works just like any other aftermarket unit, comes with us/canada navtec maps.
There is dashdaq software for the pc, so if by chance you're running pc based headunit you could turn that into a dashdaq too.

[perris]

I also have the dashdaq and it's great, terrific support on their board as well

I have mine set up to show engine temp, boost, knock retard, break pressure, outside air temp, vacume advance and speed

you can also set alarms, for instance knock retard, engine temp and speed all have alarms set to alert me if somethings going over where I want it to be

[rich71]

on my dashhawk i have volts, iat, knock retard, oil temp, coolant temp, and afr. i keep the dic on the boost function....for what i want it to do it is perfect for me. you can also clear codes, but all obd2 readers have this at this point. Kelu, to compliment the looks of your car, the aeroforce gauge in a pillar pod looks pro and tight. better than a square box mounted somewhere. i have seen someone make a cutout to inlay the gauge, but that isn't for me. Mine is mounted on the steering colum in front of the spedo pod. its in my line of sight and i don't care that i can't see the speedo numbers from 20pmh to zero. who looks at those numbers anyway right? 

[sunnygator]

dashhawk

if you have an iPhone you might consider Rev....but in my experience with version 1, it is not as comprehensive as the dashhawk.  But I still love it, it works great for me.

See this post:

http://KappaPerformance.com/index.php?topic=2331.0

sunnygator

[perris]

if you have an iPhone you might consider Rev....but in my experience with version 1, it is not as comprehensive as the dashhawk.  But I still love it, it works great for me.

See this post:

http://KappaPerformance.com/index.php?topic=2331.0

sunnygator

that's great stuff, you know you might want to contact the developer and have him work on manufacturer specific pid's

he can charge a premium for each brand and multiply the revenue realized so far from that app and I believe he will be happy doing it

try getting in touch with him, I think you're gonna be surprised with his reaction to a suggestion like that

[Kelu]

Two aeroforce gauge and a-pillar costs $500.
Dashhawk costs $300 and displays same things but I think more values.
DashDAQ costs $550 and I think some extras to have additional sensors.

I don't have a problem to have a square box if the mounting is pretty good instead of a smooth looking 2 aeroforce gauges in a nice a-pillar.

What are the other values which are good to have their own sensors and get rid of OBDII limitations except boost and oil pressure?

[sunnygator]

that's great stuff, you know you might want to contact the developer and have him work on manufacturer specific pid's

he can charge a premium for each brand and multiply the revenue realized so far from that app and I believe he will be happy doing it

try getting in touch with him, I think you're gonna be surprised with his reaction to a suggestion like that

version 2 is supposed to be out any day now, I will wait to see what is included.  I did send in comment back when I first purchased it....

sunnygator

[bones]

What is the newest version of the dashawk? I have the 2.30 now. My 2.3 wont show cmd A/F . will the newest version now show this?

[shabby]

What are the other values which are good to have their own sensors and get rid of OBDII limitations except boost and oil pressure?

I think that's about it since we already have a wideband sensor.
The only downside that i see for the aeroforce gauges is that they're extremely limited in the amount of info that they display. For $500 you can only see 4 pids at a time, even the dashhawk can display upto 7 pids while the dashdaq you can fit 36 in a good sized font or more if you shrink the font. Since you can make your own skins the possibilities are endless.

What is the newest version of the dashawk? I have the 2.30 now. My 2.3 wont show cmd A/F . will the newest version now show this?

I think its around 2.5, it has equivalency ratio and commanded a/f.

[tazz]

What is the newest version of the dashawk? I have the 2.30 now. My 2.3 wont show cmd A/F . will the newest version now show this?

I bought my DH from Sunny Gator and did the upgrade from the website and it displays Cmd A/F.
Just looked though the upgrade I have for the DH is the 2.51.  Might have to look on there website to see if they have a newer version and save and DL the file as if I don't like it I can go back.

[bones]

I did the download today for the newest version(2.5) for my dashawk. It still wont show cmd/AF. It says N/A. Am i doing something wrong? On another note,tried a few WOT runs today. Only saw  about a high of 17.5 #s of boost and shifting at 5700 rpm's. Temp was in the 50's. I have the gmpp tune. What happened to my21 to 22 #s of boost? Didnt the rpm's get raised to 6200 with the tune? Got the tune last April. Maybe it was to cool today. Wondering if i should get it reflased again.

[tazz]

You need to just go under the main fuel tab to cmd A/F.  If you go to the Gm specific fuel tab that one will not work. 
As far as boost from what a dig or roll? 
The flash will not get erased so as far as getting reflashed you wont need that done.
Turn the key to the acc position and push the Menu button on the DH select the Diag tab and then GM options and select the fuel trim reset enter.  This will rest your fuel trims.  Or you can pull fuses 42 & 43 for 30 sec and it will reset all the learned features.

[lil goat]

I have a Dashawk and it is handy but not what I would buy if I was doing it again. I am adding a manual boost gauge this weekend in a DDM pod, then most likely the Aeroforce down the road and will sell the Dashawk. I want a real boost reading, not something off the OBD port and boost gauges are cheap. I got a nice one for $40. I would not get 2 Aeroforce gauges, just not practical to me. I will at least for a time have an open hole in the pod. Let's see what boost levels we are really getting.

[Kelu]

lil goat: I remember I spotted some time ago on internet an analog boost gauge which was leaving a mark of the pin when reached the maximum. I like the idea with true values and not coming through OBD, don't forget to post about yours.

[lil goat]

I got this one it is cheap and pretty colors. I do not know which color combo will show up best so this one I can try different combination's and maybe later get a better one.

I have also thought about a tach in the gauge pod that has a built in shift light, puts the tach in your line of sight and you get a shift light.

[Uranium-238]

Those fancy aeroforce gauges have shift lights.

[hammy221]

for dollar to dollar value get the aeroforce or MSD Dashawk.. as far as boost remember the DH and Aeroforce both us the map sensor so iam pretty sure it pretty accurate considering the car is using that to make fuel calculations and timing etc... its good to know what the computer is seeing

[lil goat]

As mentioned before the Dashawk is dead, no more support or updates, much like Pontiac. The boost gauge is fed by the obdc port and not accurate, if you want a boost gauge you can get a better one for $40 and use the Dashawk for other things, it makes a lousy boost gauge I have one and am installing a manual boost gauge, I want to know what the boost really is not what the ECM wants to show me.

[snaponbob]

Here is what I am looking at -- http://www.striracing-usa.com/pro_s.htm . The top unit is what I am investigating. At this point I am still waiting for a  stateside vendor to show that it can be used on our car.

[Ben L]

Ah, so very rice.  I mean nice.

[lil goat]

X-line, those are sweet.